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		<title>Comment on Why London? by Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 17:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t be so sure. A lot of funky Victorian technology came from London; the factory in the East End that made the gutta-percha submarine cables, frex, closed down a couple of years ago after 150 years of telecoms. Also, places like Woolwich Arsenal...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be so sure. A lot of funky Victorian technology came from London; the factory in the East End that made the gutta-percha submarine cables, frex, closed down a couple of years ago after 150 years of telecoms. Also, places like Woolwich Arsenal&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jo Walton wins the Nebula! by Martin Wisse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Wisse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 11:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you&#039;re correct and I made a typo. That should&#039;ve been four.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you&#8217;re correct and I made a typo. That should&#8217;ve been four.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jo Walton wins the Nebula! by Wes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 11:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I think four out of six are women, if I am not mistaken, though it&#039;s difficult to tell with some of the names.

Jo -- woman
China -- man
Jack -- man
Kameron -- woman
Genevieve -- woman
N.K. -- woman

Or am I incorrect on some of these?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I think four out of six are women, if I am not mistaken, though it&#8217;s difficult to tell with some of the names.</p>
<p>Jo &#8212; woman<br />
China &#8212; man<br />
Jack &#8212; man<br />
Kameron &#8212; woman<br />
Genevieve &#8212; woman<br />
N.K. &#8212; woman</p>
<p>Or am I incorrect on some of these?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lola by Andrew Hickey</title>
		<link>http://cloggie.org/wissewords2/2012/05/16/lola/#comment-20634</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Hickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 11:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually pretty much agree with you there -- but I think it&#039;s *simultaneously* doing the love-conquers-all thing and the &quot;oh my god, that chick&#039;s a dude, dude!&quot; thing, in about equal measure. I think it relies for much of its effect on an expectation that the audience will respond to the idea with revulsion or humour, before adding on the additional layer of &quot;well, I don&#039;t mind&quot;.

As for whether Lola is a male transvestite or a trans woman who hasn&#039;t had an operation, I frankly don&#039;t think Davies himself was clear on the distinction at the time (and the distinction itself is a fairly fluid one for many people).

Broadly, I think it&#039;s on the right side, but I thought there was an obligation at least to consider the negative readings, because I&#039;m generally tin-eared enough to issues of offence that I could have easily missed the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually pretty much agree with you there &#8212; but I think it&#8217;s *simultaneously* doing the love-conquers-all thing and the &#8220;oh my god, that chick&#8217;s a dude, dude!&#8221; thing, in about equal measure. I think it relies for much of its effect on an expectation that the audience will respond to the idea with revulsion or humour, before adding on the additional layer of &#8220;well, I don&#8217;t mind&#8221;.</p>
<p>As for whether Lola is a male transvestite or a trans woman who hasn&#8217;t had an operation, I frankly don&#8217;t think Davies himself was clear on the distinction at the time (and the distinction itself is a fairly fluid one for many people).</p>
<p>Broadly, I think it&#8217;s on the right side, but I thought there was an obligation at least to consider the negative readings, because I&#8217;m generally tin-eared enough to issues of offence that I could have easily missed the point.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why London? by chris y</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 16:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steampunk doesn&#039;t much address how all the cool gadgets get made; there&#039;s a good series to be written there, based in Birmingham or in Manchester, with a cameo role for Fred Engels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steampunk doesn&#8217;t much address how all the cool gadgets get made; there&#8217;s a good series to be written there, based in Birmingham or in Manchester, with a cameo role for Fred Engels.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why London? by Martin Wisse</title>
		<link>http://cloggie.org/wissewords2/2012/05/14/why-london/#comment-20573</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Wisse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 16:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Dickens is another obvious influence, especially the adaptations of his novels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Dickens is another obvious influence, especially the adaptations of his novels.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why London? by Sam Dodsworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Dodsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 15:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Clute wrote a piece on the importance of Dickens to Steampunk which goes some way towards explaining this, but it doesn&#039;t seem to be online. It&#039;s in &quot;Look At The Evidence&quot; if you can get hold of a copy - p64 on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Clute wrote a piece on the importance of Dickens to Steampunk which goes some way towards explaining this, but it doesn&#8217;t seem to be online. It&#8217;s in &#8220;Look At The Evidence&#8221; if you can get hold of a copy &#8211; p64 on.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Net Neutrality enacted in Holland by Menno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Menno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 16:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I read it, that&#039;s still not good news for the Pirate Bay, though. Judges can override the prohibition. Still, if the spirit of this law is obeyed, it will put a stop to Brein&#039;s current ability to extend the list of IP addresses to be blocked at its whim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I read it, that&#8217;s still not good news for the Pirate Bay, though. Judges can override the prohibition. Still, if the spirit of this law is obeyed, it will put a stop to Brein&#8217;s current ability to extend the list of IP addresses to be blocked at its whim.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Plymouth loot by Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 01:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love seeing pictures of people&#039;s overflowing bookstacks and shelves.

Sandra was right though; discrimination is a virtue.  Unfortunately it is one I need to practice more.

I am going abroad on a very limited budget next year, so I will be forced to practice it in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love seeing pictures of people&#8217;s overflowing bookstacks and shelves.</p>
<p>Sandra was right though; discrimination is a virtue.  Unfortunately it is one I need to practice more.</p>
<p>I am going abroad on a very limited budget next year, so I will be forced to practice it in the near future.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Books read April by Alex</title>
		<link>http://cloggie.org/wissewords2/2012/05/06/books-read-april-4/#comment-20468</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 01:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love Slow River!  Actually, I love Nicola Griffith in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love Slow River!  Actually, I love Nicola Griffith in general.</p>
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