Is from Mnemosyne at Pandagon, on the religiously and misogynistically motivated US Supreme Court decision to outlaw a method of late-term abortion used to save women’s lives when babies are irretrievably malformed or dead in the womb :
Mnemosyne
Apr 19th, 2007 at 2:04 amNot to mention … not a single “baby’s” life will be saved by this bill.
Not one.
The only reason women have this procedure done is because there is no way for the fetus to survive outside of the womb, assuming it’s not already dead, as Martha Mendoza’s son was.
The right-wing can scream and cry about saving “babies” all they want, but this decision did nothing but harm women whose planned and wanted pregnancies went horribly, horribly wrong and left those women’s doctors with fewer options to save their patients’ fertility if they want to try again.
So, trolls, go ahead and pat yourselves on the back: you just made life harder for thousands of women who’ve already gotten the worst news a pregnant woman can get — “Your baby will not survive to be born.” Yay, you! Time to par-TAY!
Exactly.
Do read that Martha Mendoza link and you’ll get some idea of the enormity of this attack by fundies on women’s right to decide about their own health and future.
It’s always been my view as a socialist that the reason why elites, ie white western men in this instance, want to deny women’s rights is to keep control over the means of production of new workers.
Heaven forbid that the silly fertile incubators should be in charge of their own bodies: the rich might run out of servants and cheap labour and that would never do. This decision, reached by religious absolutists appointed by Bush, reduces a woman’s status to that of a passive incubator with no say over whatsoever her own body. Which, the fundies consider, is as it should be – because God owns her body and God speaks to them so they get to say, not her.
And who will pay for the ageing white males’ pensions and make up for their declining fertility by providing them photogenic adoptive babies, if those uppity women get to decide not to have children?
Unthinkable. Better a few women should die from unsafe procedures. They’re not worth that much anyway, the dirty sluts, or they wouldn’t’ve had sex in the first place.
UPDATE: On rereading that I don’t feel I made my point sufficiently clear. This decision is about bodily autonomy: who owns women? The state or themselves?
The supreme court has decided that the state owns and controls women. Men, however, being superior, own themselves.
The US consitution, “Life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness” applies to you only if you’ve been born xy rather than xx.
zak822
April 19, 2007 at 12:04 pmMost of you female folk don’t want to accept the ugly truth. To a sizable minority,mostly male, y’all are not valuable except as breeders and toys.
Read what the other side has written, especially the stuff from the earlier years of the struggle for womens reproductive rights. Remember that they deeply believe those writings.
Y’all so often want to be reasonable; y;all don’t want to believe that there are people out there who really do not see you as being real people. They smile at you and make nice, sure, but they’ll let you die for a fetus.
Or give a nod and a wink when a man kills a woman who refuses him sexually.
Or call you a whore if you let them know you enjoy sex and then give a nod and a wink because what right does a whore have to refuse a man.
Best y’all learn your enemy, and I use that word deliberately, or you will surely lose everything. Once you are tied down by forced pregnancy laws, it will become much easier to strip away the rest of your legal rights.
The right is relentless. And you aren’t.
Tim Worstall
April 19, 2007 at 12:58 pm“This decision is about bodily autonomy: who owns women? The state or themselves?
The supreme court has decided that the state owns and controls women. Men, however, being superior, own themselves.
The US consitution, “Life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness” applies to you only if you’ve been born xy rather than xx. ”
Men who state that they own themselves and thus have a right to ingest as they wish find that the State tells them they are wrong when they get jailed for drug offenses. Not just XX they claim to own.
Palau
April 20, 2007 at 2:17 amTim:taking a tab of ectasy and getting banged up for it is hardly the same as being forced to carry a dead child to full term even though it may kill you. Last i looked, sex or pregnancy wasn’t illegal and childbirth not a punishment to be imposed at male will.
zak822: The right is relentless. And you aren’t.
Oh yeah? I think you may’ve mistaken this woman for a wimp.
If by ‘y’all’ you mean the wussy US liberal wing, you may have a point – but I think you’ll find you misunderestimate women, as many others have throughout history and found out their error too late.