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Bedmi graffiti

Blimey, this bank crash is making people eloquent. This comment to Deborah Hargreaves’ Guardian post calling for the heads of bank bosses got 60-odd recommends in a couple of hours in the middle of the night.

I think the average Guardian reader’s a just a little bit angry at the banks:

BedmiAndrew

Oct 10 08, 12:40am (about 7 hours ago)

In another article, it has been warned that hedge fund managers and the like will just move to “high-paying Mumbai and Shanghai”. You know what? Read on:

Those of you wealthy people who think you can threaten to take your “expertise” abroad, go. Leave. Get the hell out. We’ll strip you of your passport and you’ll never come back. People are sick of the wealthy threatening to leave at any sign that they might actually have to pay their fair share. Some might consider this anti-social behaviour. If you cannot survive on what everyone else survives on, if you think that the unfettered amassing of wealth is a “good thing” then fuck right off and go.

And good riddance be to you, you social-darwinist deviant

What could I possibly add to that?

UPDATE:

Someone followed up:

Domovoy07, Oct 10 08, 3:52am (about 3 hours ago)

I am really disappointed. CiF is not supposed to be a place for hate speech. I know bankers and bankers. Some of them are now on a very difficult animic moment, deeply lost in a soul-searching process that can be personally devastating.

Good. They bloody well should be.

He’s A Man With A Plan…

..got a counterfeit dollar in his hand, too.

In reply to Larry Elliot’s new daily column on the economic crisis a commenter points out the utter pointlessness of UK Chancellor Alistair Darling’s belated bank rescue ‘plan’ :

cojock

Oct 07 08, 3:05am

What is being missed here is that even if banks do start lending again to other banks, against their better judgment, it doesn’t solve the problem, which is that bank capital was only part of the capital which supported the bubble of credit now deflating increasingly rapidly.

Banks outsourced huge amounts of credit risk to investors through the mechanisms of securitisation; credit derivatives (essentially a time limited guarantee); credit insurance and toxic cocktails of all three.

Even if banks’ balance sheets were restored – which they won’t be – and even if they lend at the same daft levels of “gearing” – which they won’t – there is still a vast capital hole which can only be filled by governments.

This deficit-based system of monetisation of credit is finished – and we must thank Mr Greenspan for bringing forward its inevitable demise several years.

The alternative to credit is a new approach to”equity”, using non-toxic alternatives to the Corporation as legal frameworks for investment in assets of all types, Public and Private; commecial, social or charitable in aims, and whatever the legal form.

Not only are such alternatives now possible: they are emerging in the UK and elsewhere, simply because such “unitisation” actually works better than conventional “equity”…..

I agree: the corporate model must die. Mutualisation is going to be a word we’ll be hearing a lot more of and believe it or not the Conservatives are ahead of the curve on it. Strange days indeed.

But wonky discussion of possible future economic models doesn’t answer today’s essential question – ‘Is my money safe right now‘?

Martin is sensible and banks with a Dutch bank – he’s safe, they were nationalised over a week ago. I bank with RBS, which has teetered on the cliff-edge of insolvency while Darling dithered. The answer to that question for me, as for many other British people, is ‘Who knows?’

Now finally, after a over a week of cowardice and indecision, at 5am today Darling came up with a plan; it’s a plan that’s that’s neither fish nor fowl, neither nationalisation nor a full guarantee of British banks, but a half-assed waste of 50 billion pounds that will give a thousand pounds for every woman, man and child in the country to incompetent and greedy billionaires, with few guarantees for the taxpayer.

Darling was aided in this by his Economic War Cabinet – these people:

Lord Mandy… one of the world’s foremost authorities on dodgy self-cert mortgage financing
Lord Drayson… a man well known to BOM readers for his keen understanding of markets, and the price of everything
Lord Myners… a man who is fully versed in the dark arts of short selling British bank stocks and who has produced a veritable shedload of official reports
Lord Helpus… a man who has always fancied a peerage

OMG. Mandy, two of those notorious Labour donors, and Lord Helpus. It’s a re-run of the National Economic Development Council, an entirely useless talking shop finally abolished by John Major in 1992.

So New Labour ‘s blinded by the bankers again, giving away taxpayers’ money even as those taxpayers lose their jobs and homes. For many this winter it’s heat or eat.

But can anyone protest at this government stupidity, profligacy and incompetence? No, they’re doing it whether we want them to or not. Our opinion is irrelevant.

At least the Americans got to protest a bit about the theft of their money before it was stolen. Parliament has had precisely nothing to say, let alone the voters. If this is a democracy I’m a banana.

There Is No Obe Wan

With the news this morning that the Bradford & Bingley building society is to be nationalised, no wonder people are getting exceedingly jittery and very, very angry.

The banking system as it stands is a crumbling edifice of avarice, dishonesty and jaw-dropping incompetence, on the verge of falling apart and hurting millions. No amount of panicky governmental tinkering and emergency taxpayer-funded bailouts will slow the accelerating collapse; the foundations were rotten from the start. That rock of financial security? Just shifting sand.

How tempting it is to want to wipe it all out and start again. Let’s blame it all on Gordon Brown and vote in the Tories! That’ll show Labour, the hypocritical bastards.

But although no one has clean hands in this, least of all the Tories, Cameron, his sidekick Osborne and the Conservative Party are actually precipitating the bank crash to ensure their own political and financial survival:

The Tories were accused last night of being bankrolled by a City ‘wolf pack’ after it emerged that the party was receiving hundreds of thousands of pounds from hedge fund managers who have been making vast sums of money from plunging bank shares.

After the Financial Services Authority had, in effect, barred the controversial practice of short-selling bank stocks and the Treasury was forced to draw up a rescue package for Bradford and Bingley, it emerged that a small group of City financiers who have made fortunes from falling stock markets are paying at least £50,000 a year to the party.

The Labour party should wish they had such donors. No wonder Brown & Darling banned short selling; it’s been directly enriching Tory party coffers. Remember Bush’s Pioneers’ Club?

Bush Pioneers are people who gathered $100,000 for George W. Bush’s 2000 or 2004 presidential campaign. Two new levels, Bush Rangers and Super Rangers, were bestowed upon supporters who gathered $200,000+ or $300,000+, respectively, for the 2004 campaign, after the 2002 McCain–Feingold campaign finance law raised hard money contribution limits. This was done through the practice of “bundling” contributions. [1] There were 221 Rangers and 327 Pioneers in the 2004 campaign and 241 Pioneers in the 2000 campaign (550 pledged to try).[1] A fourth level, Bush Mavericks, was used to identify fundraisers under 40 years of age who bundled more than $50,000. [2]

Nineteen of the original Pioneers became ambassadors in 2001. Three Pioneers have been convicted of politics-related crimes.

David Cameron, aping Bush, has a Pioneers Club of his very own:

Their donations entitle them to membership of an elite supporters club called the Leaders Group, which bestows invitations to functions attended by David Cameron, something that has prompted allegations that the Tory leader is supporting ‘cash for access’.

[…]

Hedge fund managers whose donations entitle them to membership of the group include Michael Hintze of CQS, who has given £662,500 and whose organisation shorted shares in Bradford and Bingley. Two other men who qualify as members of the group are Paul Ruddock, who has given almost £210,000, and David Craigen, who has donated £50,000. The pair’s investment firm, Lansdowne, was exposed last week as shorting shares in HBOS.

[My emphasis]

The Tories are profiting directly from and are implicated in bank collapses, and it’s a below the fold squib? Shows how Labour and their rapidly dwindling gang of media supporters have lost the plot: once they’d’ve been on a story like this like white on rice.

At least the Lib Dems noticed:

Yesterday critics were quick to attack Cameron for taking money from hedge funds. ‘Now we see that the same hedge fund wolf pack who brought HBOS to its knees are bankrolling the Tory party,’ said Lord Oakeshott, the Liberal Democrat Treasury spokesman.

Ah yes, the Lib Dems. Help us, Vincey Wan Cablekenobe, you’re our only hope!

Not:

The Liberal Democrats are facing an embarrassing High Court battle with a lawyer who says that the party wrongly accepted £632,000 of his money as part of a donation. Robert Mann, 60, claims that the party failed to carry out adequate checks on the money which was received as part of a £2.4m gift from the financier Michael Brown.

So much for Lib Dem fiscal integrity. There are a couple more words that suffice to sum up the totally useless Lib Dems: Nick and Clegg.

Oh gods, we really are in the shit, aren’t we, and voting won’t make a ha’porth of difference.

Word, Tommy-Jeff

Courtesy of a commenter at Digby’s comes this quote:

If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.

–Thomas Jefferson

Quite.