I See You Baby, Kicking That Ass

For a Saudi woman to expose the hollow arguments of the Saudi patriarchy head-to-head on pan-Arab television is a very brave thing to do, not just morally but physically. Saudi women have been imprisoned, tortured and executed for much less.

Braver still is to use the oppressor’s own ammunition against him – and win. Saudi newscaster Buthayner Nasser is seen here in a televised debate about women’s role in public life and on tv, very publicly demolishing a male Saudi cleric’s arguments, and doing it in such a Koranically-based, logical and respectful yet totally kickass way that he can make no coherent response.

I defy you to watch this and not feel inspired.


[H/T Tenessse Guerilla Women]

Both those who see the mass of Saudi women as mere mobile, silent draperies with no voices or opinions and those who think that any feminist Moslem woman must ipso facto be automatically pro-western and pro-secular will be much enlightened and informed. Maybe it will also enlighten those self-righteous western feminists who think that they and they alone are the holy keepers of the precious feminist flame and that Moslem women are an ignorant amorphous mass just hanging around waiting to be liberated by the eventual triumph of western cultural values. There are many more ways to freedom than through the East Coast intelligentsia.

The original clip can be found here and was translated and subtitled by the Middle East Media Research Institute, which appears so far s I can tell to be a thoroughly worthy organisation in need of support.

(MEMRI) explores the Middle East through the region’s media. MEMRI bridges the language gap which exists between the West and the Middle East, providing timely translations of Arabic, Persian, and Turkish media, as well as original analysis of political, ideological, intellectual, social, cultural, and religious trends in the Middle East.

They also have a great back catalogue of subtitled clips from Middle Eastern current affairs and news programmes here, well worth looking at.

UPDATE

Good job I qualified that last statement with a “so far as I know” wasn’t it? From comments:

steve Says:

April 18th, 2007 at 8:01 am

Um. MEMRI are the guys whose “translation” was responsible for the whole Apple/Mecca storm in a teacup last year: for a neutral organisation, it’s quite surprising how often their translations make Arabs look bad and Israelis good….
Martin Wisse Says:

April 18th, 2007 at 12:02 pm

Actually, they have long been accused off being a crypto-zionist organisation and there have been times when their translations were …less than faithful to the original, shall we say?

I stand corrected.

The Cult Of Poisonality

Sadly, No has a post up re lawyer, blogger and online pundit Debbie Schlussel, and boy, I wish I’d never read it, or even seen or heard of her. Speaking as a former member of the legal profession (I was crap at it in practice, I freely admit) I’m under no illusions that lawyers are any more moral, clever or humane than other average mortals. Probably much less so if anything.

Nevertheless at times I’m just completely gobsmacked at the sheer ineptititude, spite and moral stupidity that comes out of US law schools. Ann Althouse, for example, and Ann Coulter and the Powerline trio – all those petty-minded little people with their petty little hatreds, who’ve been given a public bully pulpit to spout off from, just because they were able to pass a bunch of multiple choice exams and can spell ‘libertarianism’. (At least all my finals questions required actual essays, even if I did throw up in Trusts and Equity from sheer exam nerves, and had to resit it in the autumn.). Detroit lawyer Schlussel can spell libertarian too, but only in ALLCAPS.

The ability to memorise a pile of case cites and headnotes does not automatically confer the ability to reason – if only – and so it proves yet again. This US law school product turned, airbrushed-blonde-wingnut-pundit, seems to think an obsession with the race and/or immigration status of the mass-murderer of 33 people is somehow relevant to the crime, and also that the insult ‘Paki’ is a perfectly acceptable epithet for someone from Pakistan.

That’s bad enough, but Schlussel takes her lack of rational thought further into batshit insane wingnut territory as she reasons that because some students are Asians and some Asians are Pakistani and some Pakistanis are Moslem and some Moslems are terrorists – why, then it must’ve been a terrorist…

Who is the “Asian” Mass Murderer at Virginia Tech? UPDATE: Shooter is Chinese National w/Student Visa

[…]

Here’s what we know about the murderer of at least 32 students and maimer of at least 28 more at Virginia Tech, today:

* The murderer has been identified by law enforcement and media reports as “a young Asian male.”

* The Virginia Tech campus has a very large Muslim community, many of which are from Pakistan (per terrorism investigator Bill Warner).

* Pakis are considered “Asian.”

Now I’m no Majikthise, but that reasoning strikes me as just ever-so-slightly disingenuous. And “Pakis”? How very ignorant. Yet a simple google would have produced this as the top result:

Web definitions for Paki

AVOID. An offensive term referring to Pakistanis. Sometimes used in Britain as an epithet against all South Asians

If she didn’t find out whether it was insulting she’s ignorant and racist: and if she knew and just didn’t care she’s maliciously racist. Either way it’s racist. I somehow doubt Ms Schlussel will be guest of honour at the Bradford mela this year, though she might get a pash note from our very own fellow lawyer and racist Nick Griffin.

Seeing this a number of commenters kindly pointed out her error, to be met with this polite response:

MY NAME IS DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL, NOT DON IMUS. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO FALL ALL OVER THEMSELVES IN SHAME AND GROVELLING FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS FOR SAYING SOMETHING YOU FIND OFFENSIVE, GO TO THE IMUS HOME. ALSO, THIS IS NOT MSNBC OR CBS RADIO. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO CAVE INTO YOUR THOUGHT-POLICE ORTHODOXY LIKE A WET NOODLE, THE OWNER AND OPERATOR OF THIS SITE–ALSO ME–IS NOT WHAT YOU ARE SEEKING.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Well, there’s a measured and well-thought-out reply. How does a noodle cave, exactly?

Counselor Schluessel has the online manners of a rampaging hippo on angel dust and the literary skills of our 3-legged cat Hector. No wonder she chose punditry over litigation if that’s her courtroom persona. Schlussel, from my admittedly brief perusal of her works, doesn’t strike me as the unambitious type; but if she really wants to reach the giddy heights of Instahackdom (and don’t they all?) it’d help if she had a handle on the correct euphemisms to use when making brioad, sweeping, racist generalisations.

So here, courtesy of Loren Javier is a handy aide-memoire for Schlussel when those racist ants in her undoubtedly pristine pants start to get a little itchy:

Asian
A term either describe somebody of Asian descent or something that comes from Asia. When speaking of Asians who are American citizens, however, use Asian American, Asian Pacific American (APA), Asian Pacific Islander (API) or Asian American/Pacific Islander (AAPI).

Asian AmericanThis phrase was first used in the 1980 Census to describe American citizens from all Asian ethnic backgrounds. It is a commonly used term and is preferred by those of Asian descent who were born and raised in the United States.

Asian Pacific American
This is a relatively new term that is inclusive of both Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders. It is abbreviated as APA. Some other acceptable terms are Asian Pacific Islander (API) and Asian American/Pacific Islander (AAPI)

Cantonese
Chinese dialect spoken in the environs of Canton, now known as Guangzhou, near the South China Sea. The dialect of many of the early Chinese immigrants to the United States in the 1840s to 1870s. Also the principal dialect of Hong Kong. Still widely spoken in U.S. Chinatowns.

China Doll
AVOID. A figurine, usually porcelain, but when used metaphorically or as a comparison the implied image of female submission demeans women of Chinese heritage.

[…].

Desi This is a colloquial name for people of South Asian descent, particularly those of Indian and Pakistani descent, to self describe each other or their community. The term is derogatory outside of the South Asian community.

Dragon Lady
A cartoon character from the popular 1930s comic strip, “Terry and the Pirates.” Variations of the Dragon Lady were later popularized in many Hollywood adventure movies of the 1940s and later. She was portrayed as sexy and evil in Chinese silk gowns with long sleeves, cigarette holder between two fingers

Gook
AVOID. This is an offensive term that American soldiers coined to describe Koreans during the Korean War. “Gook” is actually Korean for “country.” “Han Gook” describes a person from the People’s Republic of Korea while “Mee Gook” describes a person from the United States. The irony is that American soldiers believed Koreans were describing themselves as gooks when, in reality, they were describing Americans. The term eventually was used during the Vietnam war and became widely used as a derogatory term for all Asian Americans.

Gosei (GO-say)
Fifth-generation Japanese Americans, generally born in the new millennium. Term is mainly of historical interest only.

[…]

Paki
AVOID. An offensive term referring to Pakistanis. Sometimes used in Britain as an epithet against all South Asians.

Pinoy/Pinay (pee-NOY/pee-NAHY)
This term describes a Filipino American man (Pinoy) or woman (Pinay). While it is widely used within Filipino American communities, some consider it derogatory. It is advised that media use “Filipino American” unless quoting someone who self-identifies that way.

Potato Queen
This is a slang term used to describe lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) Asian Pacific Americans, particularly men, who only date Caucasian people. While it is used tongue-in-cheek, it is considered derogatory by some people and, therefore, advised that media avoid it, unless quoting someone who self-identifies that way or is used by an Asian Pacific American in a more opinion or editorial tone.

More…

You’d think a lawyer’d have the necessary research skills to have found that out herself, wouldn’t you? Unless of course that lawyer were determined to give full rein to her basest lizard-brain feelings in the hope of making herself an online career. Otherwise, she’d probably be sitting in some law mill with a thousand other associates churning out boilerplate real-estate contracts. If not for blogging and an unfortunate turn for hateful bile, most of these wingnut lawyer/blogger/pundits’d be doing the same. Aren’t the interwebs wonderful?

[*Note to male progressive bloggers, re Michelle Malkin and oingoing references to pingpong/patpong: much as we loathe her, this post applies to you too. But feel free to use ‘potato queen’ though. It seems rather apt in light of Jesse Malkin’s undoubted caucasianity.]

Kos Does A Blog-Ratner

Lamer than lame Jack McLame, the winner of this year’s Mr Lame competition – Markos Multisas of Daily Kos replies to the critics of his recent post telling women bloggers that death threats are just bad internet manners so get over it, girlies:

Blogging and threats
by kos
Sun Apr 15, 2007 at 09:49:00 AM PDT

I don’t disagree with anything Lindsey wrote. I disagreed with using a bloggers threats as an excuse to foist upon us all a “Blogger Code of Conduct”.

That’s what I was saying. 1) There are assholes that will 2) email stupid shit to any public figure (which includes bloggers, but 3) that won’t be stopped by any blogger code of conduct.

You see, stupid asshole psycho threatening emailers don’t care about codes of conduct. That’s all.

Shorter Kos: “Shut up you buncha nagging wusses, you’re harshing my king of the internet mellow. I Am Kos! Look on my works ye lesser bloggers, and despair! That is all.”

I’m not one for codes of conduct either, so I’m not at all loth to say that Kos is in danger in disappearing up the fundament of his own self-importance.

Kos is where he is now because of luck, mostly. Whilst not denying his undoubted talent and application, nevertheless he just happened to catch the zeitgeist at the right moment. And if it hadn’t been for the ongoing support of the progressive blogosphere – including feminist bloggers and diarists – Daily Kos would never have taken off at all and he’d be just like the rest of us, slogging away in well-deserved obscurity.

Kos seems to have forgotten one of the cardinal rules of marketing (one that Gerald Ratner learned to his cost) – never take the piss out of your customers. They can turn on you.

It’s LART* Time Again

Chris Clarke at Pandagon gives those men who’re pontificating on ‘wussy’ women who can’t take online harassment (see Wampum’s roundup for backstory) a great big whack with the clue bat :

How not to be an asshole: a guide for men
Published by Chris Clarke April 13th, 2007 in Gender Issues, Assholes.

[…]

I’m a big fan of dispassionate, rational, fact-based discussion of the issues myself, and it is in that spirit that I offer, to my brethren who’ve taken it upon themselves to be a shining light of dispassion on this topic, these fraternal words of guidance:

Shut the fuck up.

Here are a few of the actual facts that prompt the above sage counsel:

— You are not saying anything the women you’re talking to haven’t heard a thousand times before. You are not saying anything the women you’re talking to haven’t told themselves a thousand times before. If you would actually stop your reflexive know-it-all yammering and pay attention to what women actually SAY about the offenses they suffer on the sexual harassment – rape continuum, you will note that almost to a woman they second-guess their own gut feelings about the putative offender far beyond the point where almost any man would.

— You are wrong. If you doubt that the nature of abuse and harassment women suffer, online or off, differs from that men experience, then you don’t know what you’re talking about. Oddly, the Internets offer a way for you to verify this fact for yourself. About a dozen years ago, at the urging of a feminist online acquaintance, I logged on to AOL using an obviously female but non-provocative handle. (”AliciaMN.”) Within five minutes of logging on I had sexually abusive IMs popping up from men I didn’t know. Didn’t matter which room I was in: general chat, politics, classical music. I kept up the experiment for I think four days, a couple hours a day, sometimes chatting with people about non-sexual topics, sometimes just lurking. Two of the men who IMed AliciaMN with blatantly and obnoxiously sexual messages — “Hey, I’m up in Alaska! How ’bout you thaw my dick out with your throat?” being an example I recall — responded to my NON-response by telling “Alicia” she deserved to get raped.

This is neither new nor surprising information to any woman here. I mention it because 1) maybe if a man says it it’ll be taken seriously and 2) it implies a suggestion that disbelievers find a venue equivalent to AOL in its heyday and repeat my experiment, in the spirit of dispassionate empiricism.

— If no woman in your life has ever talked to you about how she lives her life with an undercurrent of fear of men, consider the possibility that it may be because she sees you as one of those men she cannot really trust.

— Finally, let’s assume just for the sake of argument that you’re right. You aren’t. But just as a gedankenexperiment, let’s pretend you are, and that the women who are talking about the massive deadweight silence from men about the harassment they experience, and who are getting all upset and speaking in terms of “war zones” and “hate crimes” and such are just being emotional, hysterical even, and — like the people who forward that bogus email about the guy with the ropes and duct tape in hs trunk in the mall parking lot — just need to be set straight with a calm, measured dose of logic and fact-checking.

In most situations, that’s a fine impulse. There really is no reason to get upset about LSD in blue star tattoos, and Bill Gates really isn’t paying people who forward a chain email.

But this situation is qualitatively different. When the topic at hand is men not taking an issue seriously, suggesting that the issue might not really be all that serious is not being dispassionate. It is, in fact, taking a side. And the people on the side you’re taking, incidentally, include the gropers, the rapists, the sexual-favor-demanding bosses.

In short, if you’re interested in quibbling with the data or suggesting alternate interpretations of what Kos really meant when he called Kathy Sierra a lying “crying blogger,” and your goal is not to be a flaming asshole, shut the fuck up.

And when you shut the fuck up, two magical things happen:

1) You’re no longer actively contributing to the very problem you’re discussing;
2) It’s easier to listen to what the women are actually saying.

Well, quite.

I have to wonder though – would I have featured this post with such alacrity had it been written by a woman? I’d like to think so, but let’s face it, we’re all products of our own conditioning and I, like every poor bugger else, was raised in a patriarchy so quite possibly I wouldn’t have. Which is sad.

*Google is your friend.

Well, That’ll Put the Cat Amongst The Blog Pigeons

PZ Myers at Pharyngula:

Kos screwed up

Category: Stupidity

Everyone’s talking about Kos, so in one sense he’s done something smart, and he’s going to rake in some more ad dollars over all this attention — but in another Kos has blown it, big time. He has dismissed the death threats against Kathy Sierra as a) same old story that he sees all the time, b) nothing to worry about, and c) reason to suggest that the victim ought to give up blogging, which, of course, is music to the ears of the “psycho losers” who carry out that kind of attempted intimidation. Is Kos really so tone-deaf that he doesn’t realize he has just sided with people who threatened to slit Sierra’s throat and rape her corpse?

Read on »

Ooops.

Stay tuned – this one might even knock Wolfie off the liberal blogs’ radar.