I want to highlight part of a comment Alex made at a recent post:
Strangely, I’m strongly in favor of the burqa ban, which you referred to as foulness. My philosophical reasoning here is strongly affected by my emotions and the way I was brought up. I was brought up as a strongly conservative Christian, and sent to Christian schools my entire life, including boarding school in high school, and the dress codes were very strict. I look back on my entire childhood as abuse and torture, that affected me absolutely as much as the beatings. Given that most “women” are expected to start wearing these costumes at puberty, when they are not in control of any part of their lives, is giving too much control to parents. I know this raises issues of what an adult woman can choose for herself, but the adult women I know in any kind of conservative religion are mad and usually poor or no education which would enable them to have the economic freedom to choose, and they are kept from making real outside social connections which might offer them the support to make real choices.
As he himself acknowledges, this is a fine example of paternalism in action, where you’re so convinced these women wearing burqas need to be delivered from their oppression that you’re willing to send them to jail for it. This sort of attitude has a not very proud history on the left (*cough*eugenics*cough* and we should be very careful with it. For a start, just because your reason for wanting to ban the burqa is all meant in the best interests of its wearers, it doesn’t mean that the people actively trying to do this are motivated by anything more noble than a spot of Muslim bullying. Modern bigotry often hides behind a phony concern for “western” values and liberties.
Furthermore and quite obviously, a burqa ban denies agency to the very women who we are supposedly trying to liberate from their oppression, by making it clear that they cannot be trusted to make the right choice on their own. A burqa ban also supposed that the view of the burqa as a symbol of male oppression of women is the only correct one and that women cannot choose to wear it for any reason other than that somebody is forcing them. It therefore denies the existence of any woman who has made that choice for religious or other reasons. Finally, it also supposes that “we” know what’s best for “them”, when it may very well be that the burqa is just a minor issue or no issue at all in the lives of most Muslim women living in the Netherlands.
A burqa ban also means that those women who wear them for religious reasons are forced to choose between the law and their religion, never a happy occurrence, while those who are forced into it through social pressure or their evil husbands will have other tensions to worry about…
Let’s not forget also that the number of women who wear the full burqa, rather than just a headscarf, is very low: probably less than twohundred in the entire country. Not really a “problem” we need a law for, in other words.
Izzy
February 22, 2012 at 9:23 pmGood, strong post there. The main point for me in this debate is that it is blatant electioneering. Unfortunately when people try to put these laws in place they come with a pack of lies to justify it. Others fall for those lies and debate those points, and the main point is lost. It’s great to see you decimate those false points that politicians present to us. Hopefully people will come around eventually so we can get to the crux of the problem: the Islamophobia in society and how politicians, instead of trying to squash it, use it as a means of getting into power.
Sam Dodsworth
February 23, 2012 at 5:01 amI found substituting “dress code” for “burqa ban” helped clarify my thinking. Should our country have a dress code? No jeans or trainers? Black tie?
(And if you want to irritate the racists, try pointing out that they probably mean ‘niqab’. I can’t speak for the Netherlands but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a burqa in the UK.)
Martin Wisse
February 23, 2012 at 7:52 amThere are one or two women in my neighbourhood, who might be of Somali origins because there are quite a few Somali people living here, who do wear the full on burqa and it can be a bit unsettling seeing that for the first time — until you stand behind them in the checkout at the local supermarket and see them buying the exact same toilet paper on special that you have too.
Sam Dodsworth
February 23, 2012 at 8:37 amWith the eye-grille and everything? I’m impressed/surprised. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one in London, but it could just be I’m not visiting the right areas.
Alex
February 27, 2012 at 11:12 pmI don’t think I’ve ever seen one in London,
That surprises me. In my fairly small, non-cosmopolitan city here in the US, at a tiny community college I’ve seen at least six different ladies wearing full face coverage.
And dear god I need to learn to handle my commas. After reading that quote I cringed. Clearly I need to spend more time writing these.
Thanks for the thoughtful discussion Martin. Unfortunately you’re right: most of the people I’ve seen who are against it seem to be arguing from a bigoted standpoint, rather than from an emancipatory standpoint.
Any discussion of garb bring to mind Bernard Rudofsky. I think everything he ever wrote is out of print, but if you ever get the chance to read something he wrote, you might enjoy his writing style.
Martin Wisse
February 28, 2012 at 11:24 amWill keep an eye out for his work.