The morality of the pro-war left

Does the fact that US soldiers have engaged in torture in Iraq demand of those on the left who supported the war to re-evaluate their position?

Wasn’t the main reason given by those on the left who supported this war why they did so, the chance to remove a dictatorial regime, rather than any of the official reasons given by the Bush administration?

Than surely, the fact that the liberators themselve engage in torture and rape, must cause some soul searching? After all, what does liberation matter if torture still happens?

Why Ken MacLeod won’t be in the pro-war left

Ken Macleod has a long and interesting post up detailing why he isn’t part of the
pro-war left
:

This is why no argument so far presented could convince me to take the position of the pro-war left.
I admit to being one of those boring old ex-Trots whose thinking on war and peace was shaped, not only by the 1960s and 1970s and 1980s and 1990s, but by the oft-invoked historical memory of the 4th of August 1914, when the War to End All Wars began, and a world ended. As my oldest surviving uncle once said: ‘I haven’t believed in God since the First World War.’ Most of the left, Marxist and liberal and anarchist, backed one side or another in that war too.

Invasion of the entrists

I’ve sort of been following the group that used to be the Revolutionary Communist Party, then morphed into Living Marxism and is now known as Spiked online/The Institute of Ideas. They’re a classic example of how a group of extreme leftwing nutcases can metamorphose into a group of rightwing nutcases.

Yesterday they turned up on George Monbiot’s radar:

One of strangest aspects of modern politics is the dominance of former left-wingers who have swung to the right. The “neo-cons” pretty well run the White House and the Pentagon, the Labour party and key departments of the British government. But there is a group which has travelled even further, from the most distant fringes of the left to the extremities of the pro-corporate libertarian right. While its politics have swung around 180 degrees, its tactics – entering organisations and taking them over – appear unchanged. Research published for the first time today suggests that the members of this group have colonised a crucial section of the British establishment.

The organisation began in the late 1970s as a Trotskyist splinter called the Revolutionary Communist party. It immediately set out to destroy competing oppositionist movements. When nurses and cleaners marched for better pay, it picketed their demonstrations. It moved into the gay rights group Outrage and sought to shut it down. It tried to disrupt the miners’ strike, undermined the Anti-Nazi League and nearly destroyed the radical Polytechnic of North London. On at least two occasions RCP activists physically attacked members of opposing factions.

When I first started getting interested in socialism and politics in general, Spiked Online looked interesting and modern, but it soon seemed to be more glitz than substance: establishment dogma with a fashionable cyberlibertarian sauce. Plenty of opinions on everything, but few ideas of their own…

Earlier posts on the Spiked crew:
Brendan O’Neill doesn’t get it
one man’s journey into sectarianism

Disillusonment

Or, one man’s journey into sectarianism:

We’ve all been there, it’s a wet Saturday morning, you drag yourself into the city centre to part with some of your meagre funds, fighting your way through the throngs of shoppers, teenagers, stressed out parents, and there they stand, the radical lefties. Thrusting their ‘radical’ left wing politics at you, asking for your name on their petition, stopping you with loaded questions such as ‘Do you think the National Health Service needs more funds?’ or ‘Do you agree with the governments policy on immigration’ and then pulling you into a debate they are quite sure they are going to wipe the floor with you in. You are finally presented with the party paper to purchase for your greater advancement at the measly sum of &#1632.50, or another such price which at the time seems just a bit too much for a piece of paper packed with political headbanging, which you will glance at idly one afternoon and then use to line the cats litter box, or mop up a spilt cup of tea. Who are these people, why do they spend their Saturdays doing this? Well, opening the dusty closet door of my murky past I can now reveal some insights, for, yes, shame of shame, I WAS ONE OF THEM!!

The Revolutionairy Communist Party of which he talks no longer exists; they’re now the people behind Spiked Online, just as weird, but “left-libertarian”.

The Brendan O’Neill drinking game!

Some people you can engage constructively with, others you should just mock. It’s in this spirit Wis[s]e Words proudly presents:

The Brendan O’Neill drinking game!

Requirements: a well stocked fridge or larder with your favourite alcoholic drink and access to O’Neill’s weblog: http://www.boneill.blogspot.com/. Then take:

  • One sip for each time Spiked online is mentioned

  • One sip for each time Brendan links to an article written by his boss, Mick Hume

  • One sip for each time Brendan links to a Spiked online article

  • Two sips every time he mentions “the left” or “lefties” as one undifferated mass

  • Two sips every time he compares Ireland favourably to England

  • Down the glass if he talks about or mentions “a climate of fear” or a similar phrase as
    an explenation for, well everything.

  • Down the glass each time he castigates the left on a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” basis.

  • Drink the rest of the bottle if he can manage a whole entry without doing any of the above.