{"id":2144,"date":"2007-05-29T12:14:42","date_gmt":"2007-05-29T17:14:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/2007\/05\/29\/wikipedia-vs-private-eye\/"},"modified":"2010-05-10T12:17:42","modified_gmt":"2010-05-10T17:17:42","slug":"wikipedia-vs-private-eye","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/2007\/05\/29\/wikipedia-vs-private-eye\/","title":{"rendered":"Wikipedia vs Private Eye"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\nThis is interesting&#8230; Snatched <a href=\"http:\/\/nielsenhayden.com\/makinglight\/archives\/008953.html#188732\">from a Dave Langford comment<\/a> at <cite>Making Light<\/cite> comes this <cite>Private Eye<\/cite> article insinuating that Wikipedia was pressured into scrubbing most of the more &#8230;damning material from the entry on Giovanni di Stefano, selfstyled lawyer to the stars, if the stars are not very nice former heads of states accused of crimes against humanity:\n<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"cite\">\n<p>\nWIKIPEDIA WHISPERS\n<\/p>\n<p>\nIT&#8217;S hard to keep up with the helter-skelter career of Giovanni di Stefano, the self-styled lawyer who claims to have represented Saddam Hussein, Slobodan Milosevic, Ian Brady and Kenneth Noye.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThe past fortnight has seen him busier than ever: issuing statements on behalf of his chum &#8220;Dutchy&#8221; Holland, who is in Belmarsh awaiting trial on abduction and firearms charges; complaining about political interference in the Eurovision song contest; revealing that Saddam was a fan of Dundee FC, where di Stefano was once a director; threatening legal action against Ashworth top-security hospital for refusing to let Ian Brady keep a book about the Moors Murders; and, er, releasing a CD by &#8220;Italian singer Just Carmen&#8221; which includes a cover-version of &#8220;Everyone&#8217;s Gone to the Moon&#8221; by kind permission of di Stefano&#8217;s mate Jonathan King, the convicted sex-offender.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nUntil recently, anyone wanting a guide to his exotic career could find an extensive article in Wikipedia, which mentioned everything from his fraud conviction in 1986 (when a judge branded him &#8220;one of nature&#8217;s swindlers, without scruples or conscience&#8221;) through his failed attempts to buy football clubs and the recurring doubts about whether he&#8217;s really a lawyer at all. (&#8220;As far as we&#8217;re concerned,&#8221; the Law Society has said, &#8220;he has no legal qualifications whatsoever.&#8221;)\n<\/p>\n<p>\nDi Stefano didn&#8217;t like this one little bit. Two years ago he started editing out anything he found embarrassing, sometimes twice a day, to the point where the page was &#8220;locked&#8221; for several months to prevent further tampering. When asked to stop deleting the contents he threatened Wikipedia contributors with legal action.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nOn 24 April this year, without warning, Wikipedia founder and director Jimmy &#8220;Jimbo&#8221; Wales personally deleted the entire page. Soon afterwards a new, cleaned-up version of the di Stefano entry was created &#8211; minus all the awkward facts.\n<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\nThis is of course denied on the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Talk:Giovanni_di_Stefano\">relevant discussion page<\/a>, but there has been a similar incident when John Byrne complained about his article, which was not to his liking but largely true if not very well sourced andwhich was subsequently scrubbed by Jimbo &#8220;sole founder of Wikipedia&#8221; Wales himself. So it would not surprise me if he panicked again in this case&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is interesting&#8230; Snatched from a Dave Langford comment at Making Light comes this Private Eye article insinuating that Wikipedia was pressured into scrubbing most of the more &#8230;damning material from the entry on Giovanni di Stefano, selfstyled lawyer to the stars, if the stars are not very nice former heads of states accused of [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[97],"tags":[974,975,973,2458],"class_list":["post-2144","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-wikipedia","tag-giovanni-di-stefano","tag-jimbo-wales","tag-private-eye","tag-wikipedia"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2144","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2144"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2144\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2145,"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2144\/revisions\/2145"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2144"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2144"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2144"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}