{"id":8011,"date":"2018-01-03T12:33:19","date_gmt":"2018-01-03T17:33:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/?p=8011"},"modified":"2018-01-03T12:33:19","modified_gmt":"2018-01-03T17:33:19","slug":"heinlein-talks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/2018\/01\/03\/heinlein-talks\/","title":{"rendered":"Heinlein talks"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><center><br \/>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/LoSnjYLw2A0\" frameborder=\"0\" gesture=\"media\" allow=\"encrypted-media\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><br \/>\n<\/center><\/p>\n<p>\nI came across this video thanks to <a href=\"http:\/\/file770.com\/?p=39601\">File 770<\/a>, following the bread crumbs back from a post about <a href=\"http:\/\/file770.com\/?p=39769\">the latest rightwing sf writer making an arse off himself<\/a>. Heinlein is arguably the ur-Puppy, in that most of their beliefs can be traced straight back to them. Heinlein would&#8217;ve known better than to insult sf readers on social media or pick public fights with other writers willy-nilly though. He could actually write, had to be able to write stories that everybody &#8212; rather than just those who ideologically agreed with him &#8212; could enjoy, or he would&#8217;ve had no income. Johnny come lately coat tail riders like Jon Del Arroz on the other hand seem to want to sell books as a way to stick it to the libs, rather than on their own merits. Buy this book and annoy Mike Glyer or something.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThe problem with any of the Puppy authors is of course that everything they&#8217;ve done was done before and better by writers like Pournelle, Niven and especially Heinlein. If I wanted to read a rightwing tract masquarading as science fiction, I&#8217;d read them and still get a chance at a half decent story too. No wonder the Correias and Torgersens of this world are so salty: they can&#8217;t even buy the respect they feel is theirs even if they have the sales, because nothing they do is all that interesting or novel. They&#8217;re just copies of copies of copies of Heinlein. You&#8217;re better off reading the real thing.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I came across this video thanks to File 770, following the bread crumbs back from a post about the latest rightwing sf writer making an arse off himself. Heinlein is arguably the ur-Puppy, in that most of their beliefs can be traced straight back to them. Heinlein would&#8217;ve known better than to insult sf readers [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[22,242],"tags":[1447,2229],"class_list":["post-8011","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-science-fiction","category-video","tag-robert-a-heinlein","tag-sad-puppies"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8011","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8011"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8011\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8012,"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8011\/revisions\/8012"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8011"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8011"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cloggie.org\/wissewords2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8011"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}